AGNES: But, some things were hard especially when you first started off. It wasn't any fun when you had to quit.

KAREN: No.

AGNES: I was sad. I think we still would have been health aides if -- you know, they have brand new clinic up there. Maybe we are too old now.

KAREN: So, why have you missed it?

AGNES: I miss the walking.

KAREN: You miss the walking?

AGNES: Yeah, we walked from, you know -- I lived down here before and have to walk way out to ASHA and up on the hill there. We walked everywhere. I can't drive so I have to walk. Crazy. Carrying an umbrella when it's raining. We were lucky if somebody picked us up.

KAREN: Were there many cars in town back then?

AGNES: Not as many as they have now. Way back then it was nice. You didn't have to worry about people taking your gas from the boat. You could leave your door unlocked. Everybody knew everybody.

And now there are so many new people. There were no sportfishermen. It was peaceful. There were so many things. We finally got water and sewer, and before we had to use outhouses.

KAREN: So the clinic didn't have running water?

AGNES: They did, but, you know, the village. Some people had it but -- it was nice to have flushing toilets, running water, take a bath. Otherwise you had to heat water on the stove and give your kids a bath. Pack water --

KAREN: Where did you get the water from?

AGNES: The lakes. For bath and mopping. Then we got good water from neighbors.