KAREN: Before, on the part of the tape that didn't come out you talked about some of your training when you were in nursing school up in Anchorage at the Air Force base.

TRUDY: Uh-hum (affirmative).

KAREN: Talk about that again a little bit?

AGNES: We were up in Anchorage and we went to training. This was for pregnant women, in the Air Force hospital. We had to watch some deliveries and there was maybe five, six of us that were around.

We watched babies delivered and there were three or five girls that fainted and they had to take them out. There were two of us left and we just watched everything that went on.

And then I remember, one, two, there were two women that were delivering at the same time and they had a mix up somehow. But they straightened it out right away.

KAREN: Oh, that's good.

AGNES: But, the girls that were training up there were asked if they wanted to join the Air Force. We said no, we get too home sick, too far away from home. So, there went that idea.

KAREN: And you had said too that you had to watch autopsies?

AGNES: Oh, yeah that was part --

KAREN: That was part of nursing school?

AGNES: Uh-hum (affirmative). And the same thing happened. Those girls fainted again. And then two of us were left and we watched everything that -- what do they call them, the person that cuts them open and --

KAREN: Morticians?

AGNES: Morticians, yeah.

KAREN: No, or -- is that what it is? No, medical examiner.

AGNES: Yeah.

KAREN: Medical examiner.

AGNES: And they cut out all the organs and had to weigh, see how much they were and they'd show us. If it was a heart attack, they'd show us the clog in the heart.

KAREN: Sounds kind of neat.

AGNES: Uh-hum (affirmative). But it was so gross. And they used to have that just before lunch time and they had all these awful gonorrhea and syphilis and dental problems in the mouth. They'd have all that before lunch.

And we wouldn't feel like eating. And that was a hard program. You had to have A's, B's, you couldn't have any C's.

KAREN: I didn't know that they had sent people to Anchorage. I thought if it was a nursing program in Sitka, it would have all happened in Sitka.

AGNES: Oh, no. 'Cause there wasn't too much happening there. And there was always babies being born up there. Lot of emergencies.

KAREN: Uh-hum.

AGNES: Yeah, we'd have -- we'd be there for emergencies just to see how they do everything from midnight to 8 o'clock. And we didn't have -- while we were there, there weren't too many emergencies. But I'm glad we didn't have to do all that. They had the emergency crew there. But it was interesting to watch.