KAREN: So, was it stressful?

AGNES: Oh, yeah.

KAREN: In the beginning, when you were the only health aide?

AGNES: Yes, in a way. How do I get there in the night time. Good thing we didn't have any wild animals running around then.

KAREN: How did you handle that stress, how did you deal with that?

AGNES: House cleaning. House cleaning and taking care of the baby.

KAREN: So, you were raising your own family at the same time you were doing all the health aide things?

AGNES: Uh-hum (affirmative).

KAREN: How did you balance that?

AGNES: I don't know. I just took the baby with me where ever I went. And the other kids were big enough to fend for themselves.

KAREN: And then did your husband help?

AGNES: Oh, he was working too. He worked from 7 -- 7 until 5, I think.

KAREN: Wow. What kind of work did he do?

AGNES: He was a truck driver for Chevron. That was Chevron then and now what is it, uh? I can't remember what it is now. So, he always came home smelling like gas or oil.

KAREN: The other thing you had talked before was about, you know, you'd learned about blood pressure and temperature and pulse and learning to give shots.

AGNES: Uh-hum (affirmative). In PN training we learned on orange and then we gave shots to each other. And my girlfriend, I practiced on her, and got the needle in and then I said: “Oh, no!” Pulled it back up 'cause I could imagine how it felt when the needle went in.

And she says: “Sugar, you're supposed to leave it in there, give me the medicine.” That was the -- we call it, normal saline. She said: “Well, I don't want you practicing on me anymore.” Oh, gosh.

KAREN: Then did she try it on you?

AGNES: Uh-hum (affirmative). She did good.

KAREN: She did good?

AGNES: She said: “Do like I did.”