MARLA:  Is there a particular case that stands out in your mind, something that someone came to you for help and you were able to help them?
 
BOB:  Yeah. 

MARLA:  Do you want to talk about that? 

BOB:  Well, I don't know.  Something you don't know when you went in training, something you did learn about to take care of the patient, kind of you go to the doctor and just tell them I -- I usually do, I tell the doctor, I just don't know.  I mean, I can't take care of it myself.  I might try and tell them what symptoms I -- symptoms are. 

MARLA:  Was it hard to describe symptoms to the doctor? 

BOB:  Yeah, pretty much.  Some -- something you don't know the names or mostly in my -- in my work, it was kind of -- kind of usually, I mean, when you in training, they train you what you -- what you should know. 

MARLA:  That's --

BOB:  Get a lot of help from doctors.

MARLA:  But still I would think it would be a little bit difficult to describe to somebody what some symptoms were. 

BOB:  Yeah.  Yeah.  Sometime you -- and myself, I don't know what they are, I just tell them the problem.  I mean, when you are not trained to know what's all about, you know, you just can't -- you can't tell what's really happening. 

MARLA:  Right.  And the doctors are pretty good about knowing what --

BOB:  Pretty much.  You know, we have to check the patient, which you can't do.  I mean, take temperatures and what part of the body, doctors know quite a lot.  And they just -- doctors gave you what medication you should give.  You have -- get a booklet of medicine, the patient should get, you know, but have to be a doctor's advice, a lot of them.