MARLA:  So when you finished working as a health aide and you were working -- you said you were working as a carpenter? 

BOB:  Yeah. 

MARLA:  What, you were working --

BOB:  I went to -- I went to -- I took the job right away because I couldn't afford my job.  I mean, my family was -- the money I was getting was 60 bucks here, not -- so I got foreman job on carpenter.  I know a little bit about carpenter.  I mean, I build myself a house.  Anyway. 

MARLA:  And then what did you do after that? 

BOB:  What? 

MARLA:  Were you a carpenter from the '70s until you retired.

BOB:  No.
 
MARLA:  Or --

BOB:  No.  First I -- I got hired as a equipment manager from Barrow.  That was -- that was the Public Works from Barrow.  I was getting paid from Barrow.  Then I went to work there for a while, for Public Works, being part-time mechanic, taking care of equipment.  So. 

MARLA:  So it was your family -- did your family move to Barrow, then, too, or were they still here? 

BOB:  Still here. 

MARLA:  Okay. 

BOB:  Yeah.  Here in Anaktuvuk. 

So I worked there for a while, Public Works, and I did build the school.  They build the school, so I applied for plant manager in school.  It was nobody -- I guess -- it was another man from Barrow when applied for school manager.  I mean, equipment -- being plant manager and school.  So they hired me to work on school for -- until I retire. 

And after I retire from school, they call me up from Borough, this guy was training people how to be -- how to be a carpenter, that time they have CIPM, you know, the rebuilt -- I mean, built house -- I mean, helped people out who applied for -- who have applied for house repair.
 
MARLA:  Okay. 

BOB:  And add a room.  In those days, they have the small houses, we had a lot of room for the house.  This is our government working.  Yeah.  When somebody goes see me and after I retire, I want to work, so I took this job again. 

MARLA:  After you retired?
 
BOB:  After I retired, I -- well, I was need to do something.  Kind of -- kind of lonely after you retire. 

MARLA:  Yeah. 

BOB:  You've got nothing to do.  So I took the job for a carpenter boss where other people work, you know, I plan -- I plan things how to repair and all that.  So I went there for a while.  Then when they got a new mayor, they put me out since I had been -- since then I been retired.  I mean, I work for Fish and Game here now, collect samples.  Then I --

MARLA:  And what kind of samples?  Mostly caribou samples or --

BOB:  Yeah, wolf, wolf samples, any kind of samples they want. 

MARLA:  That's kind of fun, huh --

BOB:  Yeah. 

MARLA:  -- to get paid to go trapping and hunting? 

BOB:  Yeah.  I was a hunter and trapper, collector, same -- same time.  Make a little money extra. 

MARLA:  Yeah. 

BOB:  I was happy.

MARLA:  It's good.  It's a good thing to be able to do. 

BOB:  Yeah.  Well, it was fun for me.  Fun for me to do that.  I mean, I do that every day anyway. 

MARLA:  Yeah.