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H2004-17-29,
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This interview took place at the Blue Heron Inn Bed and Breakfast in Yakutat, which was quieter than Barbara's house. Barbara was born in Petersburg, Alaska in 1937. Her mother died when she was 6 months old, and her grandmother raised her in Yakutat. Her grandmother was a midwife and inspired Barbara's interest in healthcare. Barbara moved to Angoon in 1960 with her husband. She became a volunteer health aide until 1968 when the Community Health Aide Program (CHAP) was established and provided a salary. She and Jessie Jim worked closely together for twenty years. In the 1980s, Barbara moved back to Yakutat to be closer to family. She was hired as the health aide and retired in October 2005. In this interview, Barbara talks about her early years as a health aide in Angoon, the introduction of the telephone, training she received, learning from her grandmother, the stress and hardship of health aide work, job satisfaction, the importance of community and family support, differences between Angoon and Yakutat, changes from federal to Native management of healthcare, the health aide association and certification process, and health aides needing to be creative problem solvers.
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Barbara Johnson talks with Karen Brewster on May 27, 2006 at the Blue Heron Inn in Yakutat, Alaska about...

1) Her personal background.
birthplace\ Petersburg, Alaska\ grandmother\ Yakutat, Alaska\ mother -- death\ grandmother -- raised by\ birthdate\ education\ Skagway, Alaska\ Hyacinth Mission\ Mt. Edgecumbe High School\ Sitka\ school -- Yakutat\ grandmother -- name\ John, Maggie\ grandmother -- old age\ grandmother -- caring for\ grandmother -- midwife\ healing -- traditional\ people -- caring for\ babies -- delivery\ Juneau\ Hood Bay Cannery\ husband -- meeting\ Angoon\ cannery -- location\ cannery -- seasonal living\ children -- raising|

2) Her interest in health work, the inspiration she received from her grandmother who was a mid-wife, and the training she received when becoming a health aide.
health aide -- becoming\ nursing -- interest in\ school -- lack of\ grandmother -- inspiration from\ Angoon \ Jack, Elizabeth\ midwife -- helping\ health aide program -- establishment\ health aide -- training\ training -- basic\ training -- phases\ health aide -- certification\ preceptorship\ health practitioner|

3) How long she worked as a health aide, the change from seeing patients in her home to when there was a clinic in the village, and training she received.
health aide -- length of employment\ clinic -- lack of\ home -- use of\ bag -- medicine\ clinic hours -- lack of\ public health nurse\ clinic -- use of\ school -- basement\ clinic -- school\ health aides -- number of\ Jim, Jessie\ co-worker\ training -- EMT\ health aide -- guidelines\ EMT 1 certification\ training -- location\ Sitka\ Anchorage\ building -- CHAP program\ building -- location\ building -- trailer\ patients -- seeing\ doctor -- review|

4) Moving back to Yakutat and getting the job as their health aide, working with doctors, the common types of cases she dealt with.
Yakutat -- moving back to\ job -- health aide\ job -- hiring\ hiring -- speed of\ homecoming -- why\ relatives\ homesick\ health care -- villages\ villages -- differences\ Angoon\ physician assistant -- lack of\ Jim, Jessie\ doctor -- visits\ visits -- number of\ public health nurse -- visits\ immunization\ well baby clinic\ doctor -- work with\ patient -- referral\ doctor -- consultation with\ doctor -- calling\ patient -- evacuation\ accidents\ incident -- critical\ heart attack\ patient care -- regular\ illness -- otitis\ illness -- pneumonia\ babies -- care of\ babies -- immunization\ babies -- delivery\ baby delivery -- first\ midwife -- helping\ delivery -- premature\ Angoon\ airplane -- lack of\ mother -- foster\ Jack, Elizabeth\ baby -- size of|

5) The history of the different clinic buildings in Yakutat, working with a physician assistant, and why she liked being a health aide.
clinic\ Yakutat\ elders -- care of\ housing -- elder\ clinic -- old\ clinic -- new\ clinic -- construction\ Native corporation -- Yakutat Kwan\ clinic -- moving to\ clinic -- space\ space -- differences\ space -- lack of\ retirement\ clinic -- description of\ clinic -- exam rooms\ clinic -- emergency room\ physician assistant (PA)\ PA -- working with\ doctor -- working with\ PA -- adjusting to\ PA -- learning from\ working -- enjoyment\ retirement -- reason for\ health -- personal\ hip\ job -- health aide\ job -- love of|

6) The satisfaction she got from health aide work, and the dental, mental health, nutrition and health education tasks that health aides did.
job -- health aide\ job -- enjoyment\ people -- helping\ helping -- satisfaction from\ helping-- illness\ helping -- mental\ help -- ourselves\ health aide -- work\ work -- dental health\ teeth -- treatment\ emergencies\ teeth -- fillings\ dental health aides -- need for\ patients -- helping\ dentist -- visit\ visits -- number of\ work -- amount of\ people -- number of\ children -- treatment\ travel -- pay for\ Denali Kid Care\ work -- mental health\ depression\ patient -- referral\ Mt. Edgecumbe -- mental health program\ work -- physical therapy\ health education\ school\ nutrition -- teaching\ food -- Native\ Native food -- benefit of\ junk food -- dangers of\ earache -- symptoms\ ear ache -- causes\ tuberculosis -- disappearance of\ immunization -- keeping up on\ AIDS -- education\ clinic -- schedule\ clinic -- demands of|

7) The heavy workload of the health aide job and handling the stress of its demands, doctors she worked with, and being an itinerant health aide.
health aides -- work\ work -- amount of\ diabetes program\ diabetes -- patient management\ diabetes -- testing\ patient -- referral\ Mt. Edgecumbe -- diabetes specialist\ patient -- travel\ travel -- arranger\ health aides -- hiring\ people -- number of\ job -- busy\ stress -- amount of\ stress -- dealing with\ friend -- support\ physician assistant\ Sensemeier(?), Eva\ minister\ Westcott, Linda\ stress -- talking about\ Pichelco(?), Dr.\ Sitka\ Yakutat -- doctor\ doctor -- referral\ doctor -- calling\ doctor -- advice from\ patient -- treatment of\ village -- specific doctor\ Angoon\ Owens, Dr. ?\ Kake\ Bob, Dr. ?\ travel -- villages\ health aide -- relief\ health aide -- itinerant\ work -- solo\ Hoonah\ Klawock\ Jim, Jessie -- solo\ health aide -- substitute|

8) A campaign advocating for more funding to hire more health aides, increase their salaries, and provide more training to relieve the workload and stress on health aides.
Caldera, Deborah\ campaign -- “Health Aide in Crisis”\ funding -- lack of\ funding -- fighting for\ letters -- writing\ health aide -- campaign for\ health aide -- schedule\ schedule -- on-call\ funding -- increase\ health aide program -- expansion\ health aides -- number of\ program -- improvements to\ villages -- growth\ health aides -- lack of\ health aide -- salary\ salary -- increase|

9) The recruitment and retention of current health aides, differences between generations of health aides, and the importance of community support for health aides.
health aide -- recruitment\ job -- stressful\ health aides -- finding\ health aides -- quitting\ health aides -- retention\ health aides -- older\ health aides -- long term\ health aides -- younger\ stress -- handling\ values -- raised with\ respect\ lifestyle -- improving\ life -- early days\ lifestyle -- hard\ life -- modern\ lifestyle -- easy\ laundry -- differences\ water -- packing\ clothes -- washing\ tub -- use of\ water -- heating\ strength\ church -- importance of\ communities -- differences\ community -- support from\ support -- importance of\ Yakutat -- moving to\ house -- lack of\ house -- rental\ cousin\ Yakutat Lodge -- stayed at\ people -- help from\ Angoon -- move back to\ house -- availability\ Alaska Native Sisterhood -- support from\ Alaska Native Brotherhood -- support from\ Tlingit Haida Housing Authority\ letter writing -- support\ health aide -- needed as\ house -- current\ grandchildren -- raising|

10) The support she received from people in Angoon, and why she left there to move back to Yakutat.
Angoon\ community -- support\ village -- politics\ communities -- differences\ community -- outsider\ community -- insider\ people -- caring\ village -- acceptance\ Christmas\ Christmas program\ family -- participation\ audience -- standing ovation\ feeling -- good\ Yakutat -- coming to\ Yakutat -- home|

11) Dealing with emotional hardship, differences between being an outsider health aide versus doing it in your home community, caring for Native and non-Native patients, and concerns about the distance from Yakutat to Sitka for patients to get to a hospital and see a doctor.
health aide -- work\ emotions -- dealing with\ patients -- family\ patients -- friends\ patients -- non-relatives\ villages -- differences\ Angoon\ Yakutat\ job -- easier\ lifestyle -- careful\ family -- being around\ medical care -- delivery\ health aide -- outsider\ community -- coming to\ village -- changes\ patients -- care of\ patients -- Native\ patients -- non- Native\ travel -- ease of\ travel -- airplane\ travel -- ferry\ Mt. Edgecumbe hospital\ travel -- length of\ Juneau -- layover\ patient -- waiting\ patient -- hardship|

12) Evacuation of critical patients and treating Native and non-Native patients.
patient -- critical\ patient -- medevac\ medevac -- location\ Anchorage\ airplane -- location\ Sitka\ Southeast Alaska Regional Health Consortium (SEARHC) -- airplane\ instructors -- EMT\ airplane -- Coast Guard\ patients -- non-Natives\ non-Native -- treatment\ airplane -- hiring\ SEARHC-- patient coverage\ Natives -- health program\ Indian Health Service\ Medicaid\ health insurance\ medevac -- procedure\ doctor -- help from\ Juneau\ Anchorage\ Sitka\ treatment location -- decision\ doctor -- decision|

13) Talking with doctors on the radio in her early days as health aide in Angoon, trying to maintain patient confidentiality, and being both a health aide and a cannery worker at the same time.
health aide -- early\ Angoon\ doctor -- communicating with\ radio\ radio --VHF\ radio location\ store\ cases -- describing\ confidentiality\ radio -- public\ confidentiality -- lack of\ cases -- knowledge of\ health aides -- carefulness\ patient -- description\ cannery -- work\ work -- health aide\ jobs -- number of\ cannery -- radio\ radio -- use of\ health aide -- salary\ Angoon -- moving to\ health aide -- volunteer\ people -- helping\ accident\ doctor -- calling\ health aide -- payment|

14) The introduction of telephones in Angoon, and balancing the health aide job with caring for her own family.
telephone -- introduction of\ telephone -- post-mistress\ telephone -- use of\ telephones -- lack of\ children -- number of\ grand-children -- number of\ great-grandchildren -- number of\ children -- death\ family -- balance\ job -- balance\ husband -- help from\ children -- caring for\ work -- clinic\ family -- raising\ schedule -- heavy\ schedule -- management of\ income -- sole\ job -- husband\ babysitter\ wages -- amount of\ husband -- Johnson, Joe, Sr.\ husband -- divorce|

15) Going away to Anchorage for extended training sessions, and visiting patients and observing doctors as part of the training.
training -- Anchorage\ childcare -- husband\ childcare -- mother-in-law\ childcare -- foster mother\ training -- length of\ loneliness\ city -- fear of\ city -- size\ health aides -- togetherness\ building -- climbing stairs\ elevator -- lack of\ speed -- increase\ health -- being in shape\ training -- benefit\ clinic -- stayed in\ work -- night\ patient care -- observation\ patients -- talk with doctors -- help from|

16) Things she was taught in health aide training, and how important it is to keep your training and certification updated.
training -- subjects\ training -- learning\ vital signs\ first aid\ body -- learning about\ systems\ pharmacy\ medications -- learning about\ medication -- use of\ medication -- limits on\ medication -- narcotics\ medication -- emergency\ medicine -- antibiotics\ pharmacy -- request from\ training -- physical therapy\ training -- nutrition\ training -- mental health\ training -- baby delivery\ training -- pre-natal care\ training -- length of\ knowledge -- amount of\ training -- updates\ certification -- maintenance\ certification -- timeframe\ tests -- taking\ education -- status of\ training -- specialized\ diabetes\ EMS symposium\ childcare\ child abuse\ public health nurse\ medicines -- changes in\ immunization|

17) The adequacy of the training she received and how it has changed, doctors walking her through cases over the telephone, and how she was selected to be a health aide.
training -- amount of\ training -- adequacy\ cases -- type of\ doctor -- talking to\ treatment -- talked through\ knowledge -- lack of\ shot -- Cortesone\ shot -- giving\ teaching -- lack of\ health aide -- early\ Angoon\ training -- schedule\ health aide -- becoming\ volunteer\ application\ doctor -- Mt. Edgecumbe\ doctor -- assessment from\ assessment -- nervous\ children -- number of\ job -- acceptance\ training -- Sitka\ training -- basic\ training -- Anchorage\ training -- changes\ training -- improvement\ training -- quality|

18) Dealing with difficult cases like suicide and the emotional impact of them.
cases -- scared\ suicide\ drug overdose\ suicide -- prevention\ people -- talking to\ prayer\ people -- helping\ southeastern Alaska -- lower\ southeastern Alaska -- upper\ sleep -- lack of\ gunshot -- self-inflicted\ victim\ incident -- dealing with\ family\ emotions -- personal\ emotions -- dealing with\ health aides -- talking to\ health aides -- support from\ hardship -- sharing\ counseling\ stress -- dealing with\ stress -- debriefing\ incident -- bad\ suicide\ health aide -- dealing with\ Juneau\ debriefing team\ incident -- talk about\ health aide -- alone\ family -- problems\ health aide -- hardship\ health aide -- quit|

19) Health aide retention, and how important it is for health aides to have support, get a break from the job, and to have people they can talk with.
health aide -- job\ health aides -- retention\ health aides -- older\ health aides -- younger\ support -- family\ support -- community\ health aides -- back-up\ health aides -- privacy\ counselor\ job -- burn-out\ health aides -- schedule\ schedule -- vacation\ time -- private\ vacation -- lack of\ Health Aide Forum\ health aides -- talking\ community -- problems\ home life -- trouble|

20) The use of traditional medicines.
grandmother -- midwife\ medicine -- traditional\ grandmother -- learning from\ babies -- delivery\ baby -- position\ baby -- turning\ skills -- explaining\ grandmother -- observation of\ new mothers -- care of\ care -- home\ grandmother -- age\ grandmother -- health\ health -- good\ arthritis\ arthritis -- inheritance\ medicine -- plants\ plants -- use of\ baby -- delivery\ bleeding\ pine -- use of\ pine -- boiling\ pine juice -- drinking\ devil's club -- juice\ devil's club juice -- use of\ cancer -- treatment\ devil's club -- preparation of\ spring\ devil's club -- drying\ thorns -- removal\ skin -- outer\ skin -- peeling\ peelings -- dry\ peelings -- boiling\ stem -- use of\ peelings -- baking\ peelings -- grind\ powder\ traditional medicine -- use of\ infection\ patient -- diabetes\ penicillin -- allergy\ Gustavus\ devil's club -- learning to use\ devil's club -- powder\ devil's club -- use of\ ointment -- Bacitracin\ ointment -- mix with\ wound -- healing\ Sitka\ ointment -- devil club\ soap\ SEARHC -- logo\ devil's club -- purpose|