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KAREN:  Have we covered all of the -- sort of the -- looks like you have an outline there or notes or whatever. 

DR. PARK:  I don't remember what I --

KAREN:  Have we covered all the sequence of events? 

DR. PARK:  I think so. 

KAREN:  The sequence of events in your mind? 

DR. PARK:  If you want any of these, I'm not sure, I've got a -- I'm not -- I'm not sure you -- well, these -- these are excerpts from the old.

KAREN:  Oh, the '44 manual? 

DR. PARK:  Yeah. 

KAREN:  Okay. 

DR. PARK:  For the teachers.  And if you want this, you can have it.  I've got more. 

KAREN:  Okay.

DR. PARK:  And I don't even remember at the moment why I did that.  Probably for some report I was writing.
 
And this manual on -- from Fred Langsam, different Public Health nurses were also developing guidelines for health aides.  So that the teachers wouldn't have to do it.  So they used this.  So this was an old, old basic.  Outdated, of course. 

KAREN:  Right. 

DR. PARK:  From even when I started.  And -- but they were going by something.  These are -- these are excerpts from that era, if you want it.

KAREN:  Okay.  Sure.  That's an extra one? 

DR. PARK:  Yeah.  This, I don't think you'd want necessarily, it was sort of an attempt but -- well, that page on fractures.  And -- well, I know there's one that says "food," and there was frequently someone in dietary interested in helping the very basic stuff. 

But this was to use -- for each area to use with training.  And then this was -- I was trying to think if there was an actual thinner manual prior to 1976, and I can't remember. 

KAREN:  It might say in there.  Is there a history or something? 

DR. PARK:  But if you'd like to borrow this for a while, you're certainly welcome. 

KAREN:  Oh, thank you.

DR. PARK:  Pardon? 

KAREN:  Thank you.  That would be nice.  As I say, I tried to find it in the library and I don't know --

DR. PARK:  Oh, that's right.  I don't know whether you're going to find it or not. 

KAREN:  And I don't know if I'm going to -- I don't know if it's going to turn up. 

DR. PARK:  And the -- and if it's something you want with your program, and nobody does find you another one, I think I've got another copy. 

KAREN:  No, it would more be as a reference, and maybe we, you know, could scan it in -- a little bit of it in or something. 

DR. PARK:  Yeah.  Okay. 

KAREN:  So somebody could see what it's all about.  So we could just borrow it. 

DR. PARK:  Pardon? 

KAREN:  I could -- I could just borrow it, would be wonderful. 

DR. PARK:  Sure. 

KAREN:  If you don't mind. 

DR. PARK:  And, no.  I would kind of -- historically, I would like to hang on to one of these. 

KAREN:  No, you should -- you should keep that.

DR. PARK:  But you could borrow it. 

KAREN:  No, you keep that.  These excerpts will be just fine.  I might write down the --

DR. PARK:  Okay.  I don't know what I did the excerpts for.  Some report one time. 

KAREN:  Okay.  Well, so it sounds like we've covered --

DR. PARK:  And I -- and I do not know whether you want this for the -- the first training type. 

KAREN:  Okay.  I would like to scan it in, scan a little bit of it in as a sample for people just to see it.

DR. PARK:  Okay. 

KAREN:  And you see it's just typed pieces of paper.  Nothing fancy. 

DR. PARK:  Yeah.  Anyway, you could borrow those, too, if you'd like. 

KAREN:  Okay. 

DR. PARK:  And --

KAREN:  Is there anything else that comes to mind in reference to your work with the health aides that I haven't asked you about? 

DR. PARK:  Well, the health aides rapidly got involved in sanitation programs, too.  I don't know that we mentioned that briefly.

KAREN:  You mentioned it briefly. 

DR. PARK:  But it wasn't long until -- well, like a lot of us figured the health aides were busy enough, so sanitation aides were developed out in the village.  And usually men that didn't mind getting out and slogging through the -- the mud and all and help keeping the water systems going or... 

And they did training within the village itself on waste disposal.  That type of thing.  So there are sanitation manuals out there somewhere,   too. 

The dentists, when they got to train -- got in travelling to the villages, there are dental guidelines.  And do you want -- are you going to be seeing any dentists? 

KAREN:  I don't think we we're necessarily going to be talking to the dentists, going that direction.  We have to somehow limit it. 

DR. PARK:  Yeah.  Yeah.  Well, that's why originally, you stepped in and thought, well, I'm a family physician, I do whatever I've got to do.  And -- and then gradually as other specialties became available, you relied on them to develop their own program. 

But the dentists have done a lot of travelling.  And -- and I don't know why the current dentists are so upset about training dental aides. 

KAREN:  Yeah. 

DR. PARK:  So... 

KAREN:  So -- so what's your -- what are your thoughts about how the health aide program has affected health care in rural Alaska? 

DR. PARK:  Well, I think it helped tremendously.  And of course, a lot of families, somebody in the -- in big families has a pretty good idea of what ought to be done for a lot of things, but not everything.  And so just getting someone to kind of tie it all together within the village, it's one of the biggest steps. 

KAREN:  Well, that's it.  Unless there's anything else you want to say in conclusion. 

DR. PARK:  I don't know.  Not unless you want names from other people involved that might still be around. 

KAREN:  No, I think we have it. 

DR. PARK:  Have you got enough? 

KAREN:  Yeah.  Okay.