KAREN: How do you handle a situation like that where the people are saying those kinds of things? How did you handle it?  How did you get through that?

JESSIE: Only with talking with the Lord and asking him to help me through those times.  A lot of times that's the only way I made it through. Because everything is so confidential. You can't talk to your friends. You can't talk to your family. You can talk to co-workers.  They have -- getting off the subject, I don't know.  They have this thing now they call a debriefing.  After something like that happens, which I think helps a lot, now. Where they get everyone that was involved with it together and have them talk about their role and what went on.

KAREN: I've heard about those kind of debriefings when there is a big trauma, emergency kind of thing.  They do that everywhere now to help people cope and sort of counsel them through it.

JESSIE: They never had that earlier.  When we started, I don't know how -- I think about it, I don't know how I made it through.  Barbara (Johnson) was a lot of help.  She pushed me along. She was a lot of help.

KAREN: After she left, was there a new health aide that came in?

JESSIE: Yes.

KAREN: So you never had to do it alone?

JESSIE: Sometimes we did. To be alone in the village. They try to prevent that now because there was so much of a drop, drop-out of health aides.  Sometimes we'd be in the village by ourselves, too, which is scary.  I think there is a little bit more support now with having an EMS system.

KAREN: Local fire fighters or something, they get EMS (Emergency Medical Services) training?

JESSIE: ETT mostly in Angoon, now.

KAREN: What is ETT?

JESSIE: Emergency Trauma Technician (ETT).  That comes just before EMT1 (Emergency Medical Training Level 1). Some of them, they try to get into EMT1.  I think as a health aide it's required, at least EMT1.