KAREN:  So those four years in Larsen Bay, you were mostly doing immunizations and then people would come to you? 

JOYCE:  Uh-hum.  Uh-hum. 

KAREN:  Because you were there? 

JOYCE:  Because I was there and they figured that I could do it. 

KAREN:  Were there also any traditional healers or midwives in the village? 

JOYCE:  There was in Larsen Bay, Dora. 

KAREN:  Oh, she was the traditional healer? 

JOYCE:  Uh-hum (affirmative). 

KAREN:  Okay.  But even though they had her, they still would start coming to you? 

JOYCE:  Uh-hum (affirmative). 

KAREN:  Do you know why? 

JOYCE:  Well, she dealt just with emergencies, serious things.  And she was busy with too many other things.  She went out fishing with her husband and that sort of thing.  After the doctors started coming, we learned a great deal more.  Finally, ANS said that they just could purchase medications at wholesale from the hospital up there.  And so the village had some kind of fund-raiser, raised some money, appointed me the drug official at Ouzinkie, and tried to select the major medications that -- that we really needed. 
And it wasn't very long after that when ANS decided that if the health aides were going to do a good job, they had to have enough medications available.  None of the villages could afford to keep -- to buy that much, even at wholesale prices.  So they began supplying us with medications. 

KAREN:  And ANS is? 

JOYCE:  Alaska Native Service Hospital.  That was just what they called it in the villages. 

KAREN:  Right.  And that was out of Anchorage? 

JOYCE:  Uh-hum (affirmative).  So --

KAREN:  When did the doctors start coming around?  Do you remember when? 

JOYCE:  I don't remember exactly. 

KAREN:  It was after you were in Ouzinkie? 

JOYCE:  Hum? 

KAREN:  You were already in Ouzinkie when they started coming? 

JOYCE:  I think so.  I remember the health boat came once while we were there.  And I went over and observed what they did.  They carried the doctor and the dentist on board, but they were headed up north, clear up to -- as far as Barrow they would go.  And they weren't much interested in Kodiak Island, if they -- they just would stop if they -- if it was convenient, but...

KAREN:  What was the name of that ship? 

JOYCE:  One was the Health and the other -- what was it.  I'll think of it. 

KAREN:  Was it the North Star? 

JOYCE:  Hum? 

KAREN:  The North Star? 

JOYCE:  No, it wasn't the North Star. 

KAREN:  Okay. 

JOYCE:  I don't remember the North Star ever coming in.  I've heard of it, though. 

KAREN:  Yeah.  Because I know that one went up north. 

JOYCE:  Well, this -- these went up north, too.  One or the other every year. 
I know that Mary Setzekorn had worked with that program that she had been Public Health nurse around the island.  And she traveled on that -- that boat.  And I learned a great deal about the island and its people from her.