KAREN:  Did you miss listening to the other villages once you got the telephone? 

LILLIAN:  Uh-hum (affirmative).  Oh.  The other villages did we, no, huh-uh.  It was direct to the --

KAREN:  Right.  So you were no longer listening to them.  Did you miss, miss that? 

LILLIAN:  Yes.  Yeah.  It was -- if you wanted to listen in on who -- who was sick and where and what village.  Yeah.  It was good to know. 

And after -- I -- I maybe went to Phase 3 -- 1, 2, 3, 4 -- on the Yukon I traveled from Holy Cross, Grayling, Anvik, and Shageluk, and checked all the clinics and talked to the health aides about their meds -- medicines. 

And go through the medications that were in their -- stacked in their shelves, and teach them how to dispose of it.  Take them off the shelves and send -- and pack them up into a package and mail them back to Bethel.  It was outdated, it was the best thing to do was to ship it back to them. 

And we did find -- I did find a lot of things that were -- medication that had to be shipped back out. 

And -- and tell them how to organize their, you know, medication for different people so we would know exactly ourselves where we put what was sent in from the clinic in Bethel or pharmacy. 

And, of course, we had to always order refills for a lot of them. 
And the amount, like, we needed more bandages or we needed more everyday things that we use in the clinic, we would have to order that, put that on order.  And call it in if we have to, but most of the time we would send it out in the mail. 

And that part was -- and then when we know when the doctor or nurses would be coming. 

And I got to give -- give shots, I mean, flu shots, immunizations to the kids, their polio.  They drink their little polio thing or whatever.  Give them their shots in their leg for normal baby childhood diseases, measles, mumps, and all that. 

I did that -- I started doing that before I resigned from there.  I didn't want to, but I had to.  My husband wanted me home, so it was after he retired from his job.  Told me my place -- I should come home and stay home.  So I did. 
And then I had a chance to go back to work, but I didn't.  I just told them I didn't think I should.  I didn't want to.  It was too much of a hassle be coming up and down, driving. 

KAREN:  From Ghost Creek. 

LILLIAN:  We had a Jeep and my husband would drive me down along the beach in the summer over the hill, and in the winter, he would bring me back -- back and forth with a snow machine. 

And that wasn't easy for him.  He might as well have been a health aide with me, be the man to drive.  That was quite a ordeal for him sometime.  Yeah.  Getting me up in the early morning or something like that.  He would have to bring me down. 

And I guess he didn't really want to.  Toward the end he wanted me to stay home.  But then there was other -- my alternate health aide, she became the health aide after I resigned. 

Then she would call me up, ask me questions.  Should I do this or should I -- so I'd tell her what to do.  Then she said, you should come back here and just stay and watch what I'm doing.  Because how much you -- until she got sure of what she was doing herself. 

And of course, there was some people in the village that didn't trust her, but she talked to the doctors, so she -- she did what they told her to do. 
Yet they would come and call me up and ask me if that was okay.  And I told them, well, she talked to the doctor, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be okay.  She was very -- a very nice person.  She later died of cancer of the lungs.

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