PAULA:  These are the --

KAREN:  Let's see the pictures.

PAULA:  -- all of us that went. 

KAREN:  You're standing on a boat, you're on a boat dock? 

PAULA:  We -- we ride around -- we were riding around Manhattan Island. 

KAREN:  Oh, on the ferry? 

PAULA:  For three hours. 

KAREN:  On the ferry? 

PAULA:  Yeah. 

KAREN:  So who -- who all is in these pictures, starting on the left? 

PAULA:  This was Pahnem Kinegak, who was working for Women's Health Care and became a health aide later on. 

KAREN:  Okay. 

PAULA:  And this is Mary Anaruk, our boss at the time.  Henry Friday, health aide from Hooper Bay.  And myself, I was supervisor instructor.  Oh, this is Greg -- Greg -- Greg Moses, and he had -- anyway, he's taking -- take care of AIDS or something like that. 

KAREN:  Okay. 

PAULA:  And it's written here.  And this is Myrtle VanDoorn, she's a health aide from Aniak. 

KAREN:  Okay.  Do you remember how to spell people's names, like, or is that in --

PAULA:  Yeah, I've got them here. 

KAREN:  Oh, good.  Okay.  It's in that article.  (Inaudible) sight-seeing crew. 

PAULA:  And we each did presentation.  That was very good.  We -- we get together and plan our -- our presentations. 

And oh, Moses Frederick was -- Greg Moses was working for AIDS department at that time, and he did his presentation on that.  And the rest of us, we had made -- Pahnem Kinegak did improving Alaska Native women's health care through IHS.  And Mary Anaruk and myself did the primary care providers in Alaska -- Bush Alaska.  So that was our --

KAREN:  Let me see this article.  This was an article in your --

PAULA:  This -- this is what Myrtle VanDoorn did with the school or --

KAREN:  It says the Aniak Paper? 

PAULA:  Uh-hum (affirmative).  Aniak Paper.

KAREN:  That's the local newspaper in Aniak? 

PAULA:  Uh-hum (affirmative).  That's their local paper in Aniak. 

KAREN:  Maybe I could try scanning this and see.

PAULA:  Uh-hum.  Yeah. 

KAREN:  To go with that photo. 

PAULA:  Uh-hum (affirmative). 

KAREN:  That would be good. 

PAULA:  And that was fun.  And it was kind of scary, too, for me.  Narrow roads and narrow streets in New York, and the buildings, you know, just go up there.  You could only see the sky up there. 

Like in the evening when I -- when we go out, I couldn't go out by myself, I have to have -- I would -- I would call Henry Friday and we would go out and -- and those people, some people would come trying to sell some watches and all that.  And once they see a police security, they vanish in there.  So I'd be scared to go out alone. 

And around here, too, in Bethel I used to be scared of drunks outside of AC and outside of Swanson's.  So I told all these people the day before we went home, I told them that, oh, it's going to be so good to be in Anchorage -- or in Bethel.  Next time I see those drunks outside of Swanson's or AC, I'm just going to go over and give them a hug and I tell them I'm not scared of you.
 
KAREN:  Well, that's good.  I know you have a lot of other pictures to -- for us to look at.  I just have a couple more questions while we're talking about this thing. 

PAULA:  Uh-hum (affirmative). 

KAREN:  Tell me a little bit -- tell me about that supervisor instructor job and what that is. 

PAULA:  Well, each of us are given a certain amount of villages.  And we were supposed to have health aides, how many health aides, I forgot, maybe 26 health aides to each assigned.  But we probably had more than that. 

Like I said, most I had was -- most of the time I had 36 health aides work with them. 

And we have daily contact.  And we also -- well, I was teaching through teleconference, too, and I meant to bring one topic but I forgot.  And we have tentative -- nobody else did this, I think, but my tentative schedules for six months would be who's going to be working, who's going to be on -- on week off, who's going to be on week off, who's going to go training. 

KAREN:  So you scheduled people in each village you were in charge of?
 
PAULA:  Uh-hum (affirmative). 

KAREN:  And you scheduled their work and then their trainings? 

PAULA:  Uh-hum.  Yeah. 

KAREN:  So you were everybody's supervisor? 

PAULA:  Yeah. 

KAREN:  Wow.  That's a lot of people. 

PAULA:  That's lots of people.  But it's doable.  It's -- you know, people are.  And it's long distance, you know. 

And I'd go to each one of those villages two times a year.  And every time I go, I meet with the City Council, most of the health aides were under the City Council, and then I meet with all the health aides and the janitor or after they got secretaries, with their secretaries. 

And you travel on Monday and stay three days, depending on how big it is.  And then you return on Friday.  But with small villages, you -- two days is good.  You travel out one day, one day travel, two days of travel, two days of work with the health aides. 

And you make sure that you have inventory sheet, you inventory everything in the clinic there.  Supplies, dry supplies, their medicines, and other supplies for the health -- for the janitor.  Everything. 

KAREN:  So when you're the supervisor instructor, you're no longer being a health aide and providing care? 

PAULA:  No.  You're no longer health aide, but we have update every year, or every whatever.  The SI, supervisor instructors, will have update every year to keep up with the changes and, you know, that.  And they know what health aides are supposed to do.

KAREN:  Uh-hum. 

PAULA:  So you just still go on training, and then other things, workshops like AIDS workshop or Women's Health Care workshop.