ROSE:  Anyway, what was that.  There was some health aides that I thought were something else.  There was one, two, Rose Winkleman in McGrath, she could have been a doctor.  She could -- she saved somebody, you know.  They are training us what to do in case of poisoning, you know.
 
And I knew they taught us how to put NG tube, you know, from our nose down to our stomach to get back to suck out the poison.  She did that.  I didn't do it.  I didn't go across nobody.  She did it.  She put the NG -- NG tube down to the stomach and she got that poison back out.  So she saved somebody, that one.  And then that -- that patient was medevaced.  I heard that she saved somebody like that. 

MARLA:  You heard that on the CB or --

ROSE:  No, we talked, you know, when we go back in for workshops and stuff.  We talk with each others, yeah, and we find out.  Yeah.  But that's -- that's like doctor.  Who's going to do that, you know? 

MARLA:  I'll bet you saved quite a few people, as well.

ROSE:  Well, I don't know.  Me, it's just me.  Today I live and tomorrow I live again. 

MARLA:  Well, did you deliver babies, as well? 

ROSE:  Yeah. 

MARLA:  Do you remember your first birth, your first delivery? 

ROSE:  Oh, yeah.  I saw two emergency childbirth.  One was '68, '69, or '70.  Breach birth.  That was just what you call emergency childbirth.  That's just about the time all the health aides were beginning to attend classes in cities. 

And before that, maybe I saw pre-eclampsia, you know, their kidneys stop and everything.  But she was already in coma right here in Huslia.  But it was before all my training.  And we went through that kind. 

But anyway, we just got the airplane and we had her shipped.  And it was bad weather.  They couldn't even get to Tanana Hospital.  They have to go back to Galena Air Force Base and the medics there were doing what the doctor was telling them in Tanana or Anchorage. 

And I don't know if it's in Galena she woke up, but she was medevaced to Anchorage hospital right the next day.
 
And I did -- they did -- I think they did a C-section on her for the baby to come out.  And she had that seizure, convulsions, everything.  She was to die right that night.  So right off the bat, pretty quick, I saw two emergencies childbirths. 

MARLA:  Wow.  That's pretty scary. 

ROSE:  Yeah.  That's pretty scary.  It's pretty sad, too, when I think that she wasn't going to make, it you know.  She was already in coma when she got out of here. 

And then this other one was a breach birth.  Well, he got stuck in the head for too long, so that baby lived and passed age 21, I think, and this baby was in Hope Cottage. 

And later on, this baby died of some seizures or something was wrong.  Something was wrong.  Way out in Anchorage.  So that one died already.  But this other, other baby, though, he's healthy man right now.  Yeah.  Uh-hum.  So it's pretty sad to see emergencies childbirth. 

MARLA:  Yeah. 

ROSE:  I think that's the saddest I saw is those things.  Yeah.  That childbirth.  But after that, they trained all health aides how to do prenatal care and help them all the way through. 

MARLA:  So then you worked with all the women in the village who were pregnant? 

ROSE:  Yeah.  Uh-hum.  All the health aides took care of all of them.  And when it's time to go into city, then the -- at first they get shipped to Tanana Hospital, but you know, they closed the hospital so we used to send our patients to Fairbanks, prenatal patients.  And it's -- it's good, you know.