ROY:  I worked there for two years.  I came in May of 197 -- no, for three years, excuse me, in May of 1972, and I left in May of 1975. 

KAREN:  And so was that when Walt Johnson was the medical director?

ROY:  During my tenure, Walter Johnson was the medical director for most of the time we were there.  He and I had a great relationship. 

And before him was a young very, very competent doctor.  Well, I'm not remembering his name.  Anyway, his name is in the file. 

He preceded Dr. Johnson as the medal director.  A very fine man, a very wonderful writer, compassionate fellow, both of them were.  And always -- always contributing new innovative ideas to how we could do things better and working very hard and very wholeheartedly at their tasks. 

KAREN:  What about some of the nurse trainers?  Who were they? 

ROY:  Eva Boyce, during -- was there during my tenure, an older lady, very experienced, very experienced in supervision.  Eva's not with us now, she died some years ago. 

And there was under her, working for her, some very fine ladies.  There was Barbara Johnson, there was Mary Bolan, who is still around Anchorage here.  And Barbara, I think, lives in -- lives in Colorado -- lives in Arizona.  What's the place high up in the mountains? 

KAREN:  Flagstaff? 

ROY:  Yeah.  And let's see.  Another person who later moved down to the chain and worked for the Aleut Corporation, Aleut Health Corporation, is dead now, but she was there, as well. 

A woman, a Native woman by the name of Loretta Askolkoff was there for a time.  She was a Public Health nurse. 

There were several others, but I can't remember the names now.  They came -- some of them came for a few months and then left and were -- you know, went on to do other things or got hired by the corporations.

KAREN:  Yeah.  And how did that work?  Those nurse trainers, it sounds like, were mostly non-Native --

ROY:  Uh-hum (affirmative). 

KAREN:  -- from other places, and then they were obviously working very closely with mostly Native health aides, I would think.

ROY:  They were.  There was only one Native nurse trainer and that was -- that was Ms. Askolkoff. 

KAREN:  Do you need to get your phone? 

ROY:  No.  I'll just leave it go. 

KAREN:  Okay.