ROY:  So, sounds like a good project. 

KAREN:  Yeah.  Well, thank you.  I guess the only other thing I was thinking is -- just, I guess, your -- you sort of already talked about it a little bit, but what being involved in the health aide program has meant to you personally and for the development of your career, both of those. 

ROY:  Well, it has meant more to me personally as a -- as a wonderful activity that I was fortunate to be involved in.  I enjoyed my -- my working life immensely then.  It brought great joy to me to be able to work there and do that job. 

And I'm sure it advanced my career somewhat.  I -- I got to know some people that later became influential in some of the things I later did in my life, I suppose, or... 

But -- but no, I think the joy of working there was the main meaning to me of being -- being what I was at the time. 

Yeah, I do, you know, get nostalgic about that.  It was a great thing.  It was a great era.  It was a great run. 

KAREN:  And I guess, too, how would you -- you know, you talked about sort of the problem solving and all of the agencies working together, and how that worked and what were some of the things that, you know, have been examples of -- of problems, good things -- the good things about it and the bad things about it. 

ROY:  Yeah.  I have a hard time remembering the bad things.  Sure, there were problems.  We ended up talking them through. 

There were controversies with particularly -- particularly the Norton Sound Health and the Yukon Kuskokwim Health Corporation.  And I would often be called on to -- you know, to kind of referee these things and make sure that they didn't get out of hand.