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Rose Winkleman,
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KAREN:  Did other villages have a Public Health nurse station there? 

ROSE:  No.  Very -- very few.  There was none in Nikolai or Telida or Lime Village or -- McGrath was the central place there that's... 

KAREN:  Hum.  Yeah.  So why did McGrath get one? 

ROSE:  Well, I guess they put in for it and got it.  Because it was centrally located where these other villages could come in. 

KAREN:  Now, you mentioned one story that you didn't have a clinic. 

ROSE:  In the beginning. 

KAREN:  Uh-hum. 

ROSE:  I had to work out of my home. 

KAREN:  And how did that work out? 

ROSE:  Well, it wasn't -- some people complained if they didn't have the privacy, you know.  We didn't have a special extra room for them.
 
KAREN:  Uh-hum. 

ROSE:  It wasn't my fault.  They finally got me -- they'd gotten several different buildings before they finally -- finally got me in with the Public Health nurse across the street from where I lived.  Then they built that -- then they built the clinic up above the two or three blocks above where I lived there.  And then I got into that, got into that clinic.  That's where we all work now.  All the equipment and stuff is up there. 

KAREN:  Do you remember when that clinic was built? 

ROSE:  It wasn't too many years ago, but I couldn't say offhand. 

KAREN:  Well, how long did you have to work out of your home before they found you a building? 

ROSE:  Oh, maybe a year. 

KAREN:  Oh, okay.  So, yeah, how did you deal with the privacy and confidentiality issues? 

ROSE:  Well, if I had -- if people came, I would just tell them I was busy and they couldn't.  I kept my -- the medicine in my bedroom.  I didn't have a -- I didn't have a place where I had an examining table or anything like that, you know.  That was the first year. 

KAREN:  Uh-hum.  So you -- where, you would see them in your living room? 

ROSE:  Or in the hallway.  There wasn't anybody there.  My kids would be in school. 

KAREN:  Yeah, nowadays, with medical care, it seems that confidentiality is very important.  I don't know if it was --

ROSE:  Oh, yeah, sure.

KAREN:  -- back then. 

ROSE:  Sure it was.  Always. 

KAREN:  Did you ever feel pressures of living in the -- and being from the community and being the health aide? 

ROSE:  How do you mean, pressure? 

KAREN:  Well, in terms of confidentiality, privacy things? 

ROSE:  No. 

KAREN:  No. 

ROSE:  No.  Like I told you, if I was seeing patients, I would ask them, you know, come back later or something. 

KAREN:  You say -- you mentioned how -- the long hours that you had to work. 

ROSE:  Well, we -- actually, six hours, but -- but I mean, with on call all the time.  And on weekends, you didn't -- you couldn't -- you didn't have freedom.  You always had to be around.  And they never -- they didn't have a -- they never had an alternate for years, you know.  So I could be spelled off.

KAREN:  So how did you handle that being on call all the time? 

ROSE:  Well, I just had to handle it. 

KAREN:  And with your kids.  What would happen if you got a call in the middle of the night?  What did you do? 

ROSE:  My kids are all right.  They were -- most of them were old enough to -- you know.  They were -- they were -- the oldest one was 18, the youngest one was 4 when their father died.  I mean, those older ones and the others were older, too. 

KAREN:  So what did you do if you got a phone call in the middle of the night?  What would you --

ROSE:  I have to get up and go to see them.  I had a telephone they paid for.  There weren't too many telephones then.