KAREN: So how did you -- when you were the only health aide, how did you ever, you know, get out of town?

STELLA: We would have to get somebody to cover the clinic.

KAREN: Yeah. Okay.

STELLA: Uh-hum.

KAREN: From another village?

STELLA: Yes.

KAREN: Kodiak?

STELLA: Uh-hum. Yeah. You know, it was like I had alternate health aides, but they never -- never really finished or never stayed on --

KAREN: Uh-hum.

STELLA: -- during the time I was the health aide. So I worked with many other health aides that tried to become health aides, but didn't make -- you know, didn't finish or didn't -- you know, just couldn't handle it.

KAREN: Uh-hum. Yeah. It seems like it takes a certain personality.

STELLA: Yeah. It does. And I like working with people, and I care for people, especially older kids -- older people and little ones.

KAREN: Uh-hum.

STELLA: So, like, that's what keeps me in my job.

KAREN: Well, that was my next question is what is it that has made you like being a health aide?

STELLA: Well, I -- I like helping people. Especially -- I know that people need help, you know, certain things, and -- and I am always willing to help any way I can.

And it's just not -- it's just -- it's just not a health aide job. For a long time I was -- you know, I took care of people that came in to visit Old Harbor, and I was, you know, the only one to prob -- to pick them up or bring them around, show them around, do things.

KAREN: Uh-hum.

STELLA: It was just -- and, like, I was, you know -- when people were sad or something they had to talk about, you know, they come to the clinic or come to talk to me.

KAREN: Uh-hum.

STELLA: That just --

KAREN: So as part -- part of your training, did you get some training in counseling?

STELLA: Yes, I did. I did -- I'm not sure what they do anymore because I've been out of this for a long time.

KAREN: Uh-hum.

STELLA: I -- you know, we had training in counseling or behavior health kind of things, mental health.

KAREN: Uh-hum. And then what happens if, as you say, some things, they involve the whole village, it's an emergency crisis, does the health aide provide support to the rest of the community, or is there some other sort of counseling that's provided?

STELLA: Yeah, we have -- yeah, we have -- now, we have like this community health, you know, it's just called behavior health now. So -- and we have a suicide prevention person.

KAREN: Uh-hum.

STELLA: And we have an Indian welfare child person, so those people are there to help.

KAREN: Uh-hum.

STELLA: So -- and when we have any emergencies of sort, we all pull together and --

KAREN: Uh-hum.

STELLA: -- work together.

KAREN: And then -- but I was also thinking, is there also some sort of, what's it called, like post-crisis counseling?

STELLA: Uh-hum. Yes. KANA offers that to us.

KAREN: Okay.

STELLA: They will come in for debriefing and stuff.

KAREN: Yeah.

STELLA: Uh-hum.

KAREN: Well, that's good.

STELLA: We have -- also, we have a VRT, Village Response Team, and we're pretty much -- everybody knows each other, and we have -- when we have any crisis, you know, we will get together and try to figure out what to do.

KAREN: Uh-hum. Now, how many people live in Old Harbor?