KAREN: How many people where in Hoonah at the time, in 1965?

TRUDY: I don't keep track of the amount of people, but there were a lot.

KAREN: Was the cannery still --

TRUDY: Well, there are people -- the Hoonah Totem bought the cannery and they are revising it into a brand new place. Fixing it up and just show people what a cannery would look like.

KAREN: Nowadays, for tourism. I saw an ad about it.

TRUDY: It's really neat. I haven't seen it, my boy keeps telling me about it. But -- it's -- according to them, it sounds really good. They do a lot of work for the tourists.

KAREN: Do you know when that cannery closed?

TRUDY: No. I'm not from Hoonah.

KAREN: When you were living there -- it was --

TRUDY: No, it was closed when I moved there --

KAREN: Okay, that's -- that helps.

TRUDY: And I had been there for about 38 years, 38 to 41 years.

KAREN: And you moved there in --

TRUDY: But I never bothered to ask about anything. I was there to live. I just felt that I didn't want to be shunned out.

KAREN: So, what year did you move to Hoonah?

TRUDY: 1959. I think it was 1959.

KAREN: Okay.