KAREN: Do you remember some of the different doctors you worked with in Sitka and Juneau?

TRUDY: Well, in Juneau I worked with Dr. Willhike and Dr. McKabe. In Mt. Edgecumbe was Dr. Nash. Oh God -- There was quite a few doctors. They were pretty good, I'd talk to any doctor.

Besides that, one of them was my adopted son. Dr. Pennington. And well, I had a lot of conversation with him about patients. That's how we got acquainted. A very interesting background.

KAREN: So, you thought those were good doctors?

TRUDY: Uh-hum (affirmative). Dr. Willhike, oh I liked him, he was good, so was Dr. McKabe. But I got to know them personally, I didn't just know who they were, I knew them.

And that was the same with Dr. Nash and whatever doctors that were at Mt. Edgecumbe, I got to know. Even now I try to get to know the doctors.

KAREN: So, did you mostly send patients to Mt. Edgecumbe or to Juneau?

TRUDY: They had to. We had to. That was our area --

KAREN: Oh, for Indian Health Service.

TRUDY:-- it was through them, they established different areas and Mt. Edgecumbe was the biggest hospital so Hoonah people had to go to -- we were once going to Juneau all the time but they requested that we send them to Mt. Edgecumbe. Because they were in charge of us, so.

KAREN: Right, that was the Indian Health Service hospital.

TRUDY: Because of the program, they were in charge of the health aide program along with whatever else they were doing, so we had to contact them. And Juneau was getting overloaded with Hoonah people.

KAREN: Now, did you work for SEARHC?

TRUDY: Just through the program.

KAREN: No, when you were a health aide, SEARHC took over the program?

TRUDY: It was still the same people.

KAREN: Did you notice a difference between Indian Health Service running it?

TRUDY: No, no I didn't. Everybody we worked with were really good with us because they knew that we were new at what we were doing and we're trying to help. The doctors were very good. Any doctor we talked to.

KAREN: Uh-hum.