Henry Jackson Sr.: Interview Outline: Section 9 Living the life his father taught him and changes in education Tape Reference Number: H2002-09-01 Henry Jackson Sr. talks with Bill Schneider, Hazel Apok, and Eileen Devinney in Kiana, Alaska on February 27, 2002.

Bill Schneider: When you were growing up, how did you -- was it your dad that taught you how to live in the country?

Henry Jackson, Sr.: Yeah. Yeah, my dad told me not to smoke, not to play cards. He mean it too, you know. When he found out I was smoking, I had my -- some stain was from smoke -- from smoking, you know, he saw my hands. What did you do, you smoking? I tried to lie, but can't lie, you know. I got big spanking for that.

Bill Schneider: How old were you then?

Henry Jackson, Sr.: Nine years old, I guess.

Bill Schneider: You've probably seen a lot of changes in education, too?

Henry Jackson, Sr.: Yeah. Yeah. But the education we had some days was most likely -- it was pretty hard, for me. Not like nowadays. But I have to go to Noorvik to go to school when I was 7 years old. I got no room here.

Bill Schneider: No room in the school?

Henry Jackson, Sr.: No room in the school. They had a little log cabin for school room. 1930s, '30. '30 or '31, I guess.

Eileen Devinney: Did you stay with relatives when you lived in Noorvik?

Henry Jackson, Sr.: No. I didn't. We -- we all moved down there, the whole family.

Bill Schneider: And was your dad still able to get --

Henry Jackson, Sr.: Yeah.

Bill Schneider: -- to Squirrel River and all?

Henry Jackson, Sr.: Uh-hum. They took us down there late October -- I mean September. By the time we get to Noorvik, our raft it was iced up, you know, already frozen. And the raft, we got there, we used dead wood for fire, you know. But then I don't know - we went to come back to Kiana and back up to Squirrel River whatever, I guess, from there. Try to get some fur, you know, skins.

Bill Schneider: Well, fur prices were probably better then than they are now.

Henry Jackson, Sr.: Yeah. Yeah. Well, the groceries in stores was way lot cheaper than they are now, you know. Them days.

Bill Schneider: Uh-hum.

Henry Jackson, Sr.: Ten cans of milk was $1.00. 50 cents for a pound of coffee. 50 cents for a pound of tea, I guess. Way lot cheaper them days you know.

Bill Schneider: Yeah.

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