Roger Atoruk: Interview Outline: Section 8 Photo of Stonewall Jackson, "Uijaq", and Susie Jackson Tape Reference Number: H2002-09-07 Roger Atoruk talks with Bill Schneider, Hazel Apok, and Eileen Devinney in Kiana, Alaska on February 27, 2002

Roger Atoruk: Stonewall Jackson, his name is "Uijaq". Stonewall Jackson.

Stonewall and Susie Jackson [Photo courtesy of Frank Gooden]

Hazel Apok: Here is his picture.

Roger Atoruk: Oh, that's his picture right there. Stonewall Jackson. Oh, that's a nice picture of Stonewall Jackson.

That Stonewall Jackson, I -- he was my good buddy. He liked to tell stories, but all the stories he told me, I know they're not true. He just like to make a joke, joke and make people laugh. That's how I knew him. Nobody -- you don't have to believe everything he say, he just make a joke out of it and try to make people laugh. And that's his wife, Susie Jackson, Igxubualuk. They both -- they both died long ago, around maybe in the '40s. '40s or '50s. That's a good picture of Stonewall Jackson. Now, I hear that -- I think he was named after that Civil --

Hazel Apok: President?

Roger Atoruk: -- Civil War, Civil War, Stonewall Jackson. He was – he must have been just like that Stonewall Jackson, maybe that's why they named him Stonewall Jackson. That's how he was named Stonewall Jackson.

Hazel Apok: Those naluabmiut [Inupiaq term for white people] used to come and give people names like Smith.

Roger Atoruk: Yes. Yeah.

Hazel Apok: My papa was Johnnie Smith.

Roger Atoruk: They give names. Johnnie Smith. Johnnie Smith and -- Stonewall Jackson and Uijaq.

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